CP3 has won everywhere he’s played.
Took a bad Hornets franchise and turned them into Western Conference contenders
Gave the Clippers by far their best years
In Houston, one hamstring injury away from potentially beating the most talented team ever
At the twilight of his career, he’s leading a team that was supposed to tank, to the 5th seed in the West and only two games behind the team that traded him.
His weakness is that due to his playstyle and size, it’s harder for him to be the best player on a championship team. He can’t bully his way to the rim like playoff Lebron or get a shot off anytime like playoff Kobe. He makes his teammates better but he also has to rely on his teammates playing well.
But man, he’s made a positive impact wherever he’s gone.
I really enjoy watching CP3 play because I know I’ll watch an efficient offense that takes care of the ball and gets good shots.
[–]ihorsey 53 指標 15小時前
Must be so exciting to be an OKC fan right now. Good team, with young guys who have major growth potential, and the most future assets in the league.
Can’t wait to see what Presti does. Probably makes sense to see if somebody wants CP3 this offseason.
[–][OKC] Steven Adams DeadDay 7 指標 9小時前
It’s been fucking dope. So much less stressful than other seasons and just love the entire team and where they’re at.
[–]Wizards nova2006 1852 指標 14小時前
OKC eliminate Houston would broke this place
[–]Knicks ThatInception 6 指標 12小時前*
Knowing how insane the playoffs are going to be this year, I wouldn’t doubt something that possibly happening
[–]MuphynManIV 455 指標 13小時前
As a predominantly Westbrook fan who now watches both teams…
I don’t know how I’d handle that
[–][BRK] Jason Kidd MikeyFromWaltham 9 指標 11小時前
Westbrook averages a 35 pt triple double on 60%TS
[–]Grizzlies Ryuksapple 73 指標 11小時前
I’m guessing he’s a Thunder fan whose favorite player is Westbrook. So I’d actually say he is very loyal. Favorite team > Favorite player imo
[–]MuphynManIV 20 指標 11小時前
Technically my first loyalty was to the Knicks… Started during Linsanity.
I learned very quickly that loyalty meant nothing but money for Dolan. So now I’m a fan of the game instead.
My favorites are Westbrook first, then OKC, then HOU, then Giannis, then James Harden (only as of this year for obvious reasons). Also got the Celtics and Brown/Tatum as honorable mentions cause they’re gonna run the league in their late 20s.
Life is good when you’re not sitting and watching Knicks games while everybody else has exciting players pull off crazy shit on a nightly basis.
I watch ball and play ball to have fun. The Knicks are not fun.
[–][HOU] Danuel House Jr. Harden-Soul 7 指標 11小時前
I had a roommate in college that was a Thunder fan and I still find myself watching and rooting for OKC every now and then. Their stadium is a joy to watch; I’m incredibly envious of the energy and love for their team that the match-going fans have in small market teams.
[–]Lakers nattyhuns 33 指標 11小時前
OKC eliminating LAC would be just as good imo. Paul George gets himself traded out of OKC to avoid another first round exit only for the Thunder team he created to hand him a first round exit. Absolutely poetic.
[–]spejjan 584 指標 16小時前
OKC isnt a bad team and never was, people counted them out cus the general thought was that they were gonna trade their good players for picks, which they didn’t end up doing.
[–]tht_pod 23 指標 13小時前
Facts. SGA and Gallo were a big part of the clippers making the playoffs last season but people forget. Add CP3 to this squad and you get a good ball team.
[–]Thunder H3rQ133z 14 指標 13小時前
and Schroder elevating his game. Noel still being very solid off the bench, and Bazley as a rookie has been serviceable.
[–]Mavericks halfbrit08 28 指標 13小時前
Even then, OKC was going from PG13 to Gallo, WB to CP3, and replacing Grant with SGA.
Unless you’re assuming the last 2 years the Thunder squads under-performed, I think it’s reasonable that you’d expect this year’s Thunder to have a worse record than last year’s squad.
[–]Thunder rhythmicjoy 4 指標 11小時前
Not that I expected us to be this good but I think the main change is the flow of the offense, last year was kinda just PG and Russ taking turns. First half of the year we won from PG carries, more of a real team now.
[–]Heat MrPeligro 211 指標 16小時前
Same for Toronto. They thought the core would be gone even when they said they’re not going anywhere
[–][CHI] Luol Deng Falt_ssb 134 指標 14小時前
People talked about them like the five seed. It wasn’t crazy. They’re getting a lot of production from guys you wouldn’t have expected, siakam got even better, and FVV also is playing quite a bit better.
[–]Heat MrPeligro 71 指標 14小時前*
If you look at the preseason predictions, a few people had them falling off a cliff and missing the playoffs. I think it was pretty obvious to anyone that regularly watched raptors games that Siakam was going to be an all star and at worst, siakam picks up where DeRozan left off. I personally said they could make it to the ecf as a preseason prediction.
Raptor fans or people who just watched the raptors, it wasn’t a surprise.
[–][CHI] Luol Deng Falt_ssb 68 指標 14小時前
No one took people seriously who said they’d miss the playoffs…
[–]Thunder RocknRoll_Grandma 7 指標 14小時前
I’ll say I way underestimated them. They were 2nd in point differential when I looked a few days ago. Nick Nurse has to be getting CotY (though my inner homer wants Billy to win).
[–]76ers lil_intro_vert_ 32 指標 14小時前
the only people who seriously thought they could miss the playoffs were the people who thought they might deal Lowry/Gasol/Ibaka if they weren’t competing
[–]76ers KagsTheOneAndOnly 10 指標 13小時前
at the same time i feel like even just with Nurse/Siakam/FVV a team would always have a base level of competency, and more than enough to make the playoffs in the East
[–]AJG1971 33 指標 12小時前
[–]swaggydhl 13 指標 10小時前
A better title would be "CP3 has made positive impact in everywhere he’s played"
[–]Warriors TheUnibrow 11 指標 11小時前
If my math is correct, he’s won over 2/3 of his regular season games, which is really damn good. He’s also won a ton of weekly/monthly awards and a TON of All-Defense and All-NBA awards. The guy wins games.
I’m not going to get into the whole "but how many ringzzz?" because sports is fickle like that, where a dude like Adam Morrison can have rings but not CP3.
[–][SAS] Tim Duncan rattatatouille 1567 指標 14小時前
Fun fact: Chris Paul is the only American starter on the Thunder.
[–]Warriors Damoklessword 460 指標 13小時前
Team World: regular season edition
[–]Bucks Dun_Herd_muh 94 指標 8小時前
Mark Cuban is salivating rn
[–]Raptors lankankid99 542 指標 12小時前
SGA is Canadian Schroder is German Gallinari is Italian and Steven Adams is from New Zealand for anyone wondering
[–][OKC] Russell Westbrook BuffaloX35 351 指標 12小時前
Ö doesn’t start, but it’s still true because Dort is Canadian.
[–]76ers iiroshii 102 指標 11小時前
Is Dort any good? He kinda came out of nowhere from my point of view and I’m curious if he’s gonna get solid playoff minutes this year
[–]Thunder nathanb065 42 指標 9小時前
We found him in the dumpster and it’s been a blessing in disguise.
[–]Thunder JKMiles665 16 指標 9小時前
His feel for the game is amazing. Crazy to believe he was undrafted. Currently on a 2-Way but I imagine that gets changed before playoffs. Will get solid playoff minutes.
[–]Thunder DuncanThor 32 指標 10小時前
His offense still needs some work but we put him on the other teams main scorer every night now and he’s doing a great job at that. As a rookie, guarding Harden And Doncic is a big task and he’s done a good job at that.
[–][OKC] Raymond Felton DTttfu 7 指標 8小時前
I think he’s finally starting to hit a little bit of a wall now but he’s good and I don’t see why he wouldn’t get playoff minutes
He’s competing against T Ferg for that spot and billy has shown little confidence in T Ferg for a little bit now. Doesn’t help that T Ferg isn’t aggressive at all on offense and looks scared every time someone passes to him
[–][MIL] Sterling Brown 4th_n_Fremont 10 指標 13小時前
Had a dream the other night that OKC were in the finals. Jeremy Lin was on the team and hit a half-court dagger, which I thought was weird because they were up 3 with like 30 seconds left.
[–]reversecurve 13 指標 12小時前
Classic Jeremy Lin
[–]your-thought-process 463 指標 12小時前
His weakness is that due to his playstyle and size, it’s harder for him to be the best player on a championship team.
This ain’t it. Prime CP3 could be the best player on a championship team. His weakness was that he kept getting injured at the most inopportune times.
[–]Lakers TimeAll 10 指標 9小時前
CP3’s weakness has always been his own bones and ligaments
[–]Wizards livefreeordont 14 指標 9小時前
More like his muscles. He’s always pulling his hamstring
[–]Knicks mander14 118 指標 12小時前
So true. In terms of pure individual impact on the court CP3 is probably the 3rd best PG ever. Of course guys like Zeke, Nash, and Kidd have better legacies and are likely all above him in terms of "greatness" but I think he was better than all those guys. None of them had a ceiling like his run from 2007-2009.
[–]Clippers billcosbyfanpage 39 指標 10小時前
Yeah even his stats don’t show how big of an impact he has. Dude is a winner and it’s crazy unfortunate he’s never won it all
[–]Raptors NeverFallInLine 17 指標 10小時前
Exactly, his steal numbers have been good but you need some advanced stat shit to show how great of a defender he has been. Same with his ability as a floor general, it goes far beyond his assist numbers.
[–]Lakers funnyhandlehere 10 指標 7小時前
Advanced stats put him in like the top 5 to 10 all time. He is like the king of advanced stats.
[–]MakSoFresh 77 指標 11小時前
I was at the Bulls Thunder game recently, just to watch CP do his thing, and idk if there is a player more involved with everything happening throughout the game, after timeouts and in idle time he always talking to the refs, and then later get fouls called throughout the game by snitching, and then when he on the bench he’s like one of the coaches, talking with them about the game, barely stayed in the team huddles because he knew whatever they were gonna run. Just had to appreciate his commitment to helping this team win, he’s really the Point God once he gets on that floor
[–]Jdeck1765 26 指標 9小時前
Watching CP3 and Blake against my Magic a few years ago was a joy. I’d rank that game 2nd for me behind Cavs Bron coming to Orlando.
BTW I’m 0-10 in Orlando games, I haven’t gone to one in a year and a half and in that time we’ve made two playoff pushes. So if I move from Florida we might actually have a chance to win a series.
[–]Raptors torexmus 9 指標 7小時前
CP3 teams were just so unlucky lol. Always on the cusp of something great then some bullshit happens
[–]Jazz na3eeman 5 指標 8小時前
I’m a big fan of CP3’s game and I even believe he should have won MVP in 2008. But I think it’s a bit hyperbolic to say none of them has a similar ceiling when Nash won actual back to back MVPs*.
*One of them probably should have went to Kobe.
[–]76ers Los_Ingobernablez 7 指標 9小時前
So many examples where a CP3 could have gone all the way but he is either playing hurt or sitting important playoff games. A healthy Clippers team with him, blake and DJ was one of the best teams in the 2010s.
[–]Lakers xodus112 11 指標 11小時前
I mean, you could make the case that his size and style (when he was younger) contributed to why he kept getting hurt. That said, I do think there is merit to the notion that it’s harder for a small like CP3 to be the best player on a title team. It can be done under the right circumstances, but great wings and bigs have dominated all of NBA history.
[–]Lakers HamG0d 5 指標 9小時前
I don’t think he could’ve been the best player on a championship team either. Like OP and you said, it’s extremely hard for smaller NBA guys to be the best on a championship team bc of the reasons OP stated. Only ones who have that I can remember off the top of my head are Steph and IT. Steph is the extreme exception, IT is an exception as well (but not the the extent of Steph). Maybe you can make a case for Wade as well, but no one really looks at him as a small guy.
[–]Spurs Dimaaaa 21 指標 16小時前*
Didn’t think he’d be able to come back like he did and lead an underdog to where they are right now. Love him or hate him but he is a great leader and like a coach on the court.
[–]MakSoFresh 5 指標 11小時前
He would’ve been perfect for the Spurs and Popovich, Tony Parker+, damn shame that never happened
[–]Rodgers LeBronGoats 223 指標 17小時前
Not to mention he’s one of the only star players that I’ve ever seen IMPROVE his scoring and efficiency in the postseason. Crazy that he has a bad playoff reputation but his career postseason EFG% is better than his reg season plus he scores more points
[–]Bucks panick21 2 指標 9小時前
To be fair, you can make that argument about Giannis when avg over all 3 rounds. Doesnt change the fact what happened in the East finals.
He absolutly had some series were he didnt get to that level. However, the narrative about him is still totatlly wrong.
Overall he does well in the playoffs.
[–]Raptors Pasta_ssempa 74 指標 14小時前
Did everyone forget those Clipper years where he was blasted for never making it to the WCF? They were top tier and he never won even a conference medal
[–]Rava23 12 指標 15小時前
Imo he failed in LA
[–]Lakers Gimligetsthering 24 指標 14小時前
I think most on here were too young to even watch back then. I was surprised to see the "CP3 is a clutch playoff performer" narrative. That was the biggest knock on him before, that and injuries of course.
[–][LAL] Kendall Marshall Captain_Charisma 3 指標 8小時前
Yeah he’s won everywhere…except the playoffs
[–]110dsjchamp 16 指標 13小時前
Too young to watch him 3 years ago?? By that point I think the writing was on the wall that Paul’s time in LA was probably over, but that Spurs Clippers series in 2015 was some of the clutchest basketball I’ve ever seen from both sides. Without that series and Game 7 buzzer beater game winner I think his reputation is looked at a lot differently.
[–]Knicks mander14 45 指標 12小時前
I’ve been watching CP3 for his whole career and no one who actually watched ball considered him a bad playoff performer. He’s always been great in the playoffs averaging 21/9/5 on 48/37/85. Those are better than his regular season numbers. The biggest knock on him wasn’t that he couldn’t perform its that his body couldn’t hold up in a deep run.
[–]Lakers ClassyJGlassy 2 指標 9小時前
His biggest weakness isn’t his size, it’s the fact that he can’t stay healthy late into the playoffs.
[–]Clippers FinancialPlantain 42 指標 10小時前
And people always forget that in game 7 of that series he suffered an injury that most said he wouldn’t be able to play again from until the following season. Instead he came back in that game and made the game-winning shot, missed the first two games against the Rockets, came back, played well, and just ran out of gas because again, his leg was busted with an injury that would sideline most for months.
Rockets fans love to talk about how they were one hamstring injury away from beating the Warriors but conveniently forget the history of those legs when they talk about coming back from down 3-1.
[–]bluemorpheus 16 指標 10小時前
I mean I think most Rockets fans know they got lucky af that year lmao. Josh Smith and Corey Brewer player like Steph and Klay in game 6 lmao.
[–][HOU] Gerald Green WasAbhi0214 18 指標 12小時前
I will never forget the rockets comeback led by NBA legends Josh Smith and Corey Brewer.
[–]Thunder treemeista 10 指標 11小時前
That was the Clipper’s best shot. They were really good, and they blew it. It would have been a really good conference finals against GS.
[–][LAC] Montrezl Harrell lolwtferic 7 指標 10小時前
GSW would have smoked us. That year we had that absolutely brutal first round matchup against the Spurs that went to a game 7 winner. We choked the Houston series but even if we managed to get by them, the team was gassed and breaking down.